The Measure Pod

The Measure Pod is a fortnightly podcast hosted by veteran practitioners of the marketing and product analytics industry. Join Dan Perry-Reed (Principal Analytics Consultant and Trainer @ Measurelab) and Bhav Patel (Director of Experimentation and Analytics @ LeanConvert) and the occasional guest on their quest to make sense of the analytics industry, and have some fun along the way.

#87 A/B testing controversies and generative AI (with Shaun McGirr @ Dataiku)

In this week's episode of The Measure Pod, we dive into a fascinating conversation with Shaun McGirr, a data expert at Dataiku and former Crap Talks presenter. We explore the world of A/B testing, experimentation, and the future of analysts' roles as generative AI becomes more prevalent. Shaun shares his thoughts on the controversy surrounding A/B testing and the importance of considering other methods of learning about the world. We discuss the challenges and potential of using generative AI in the data analytics space, and how it can revolutionize the way we work with data. Grab your headphones and stap in for an insightful and thought-provoking discussion on the evolving landscape of data science and experimentation!

#86 The evolving challenge of SEO measurement (with Alex Harvey @ ASOS)

In this episode Dan, Dara and Bhav had the pleasure of chatting with Alex, Head of SEO & Marketing Technology at ASOS. They delved into the world of SEO, measurement and analytics and discussed some fascinating topics. One thing that stood out was the evolution of SEO over the past decade, from the 'wild west' days of link spamming to the more strategic and data-driven approach of today. They also explored the importance of data literacy in SEO, the role of keyword-level data, and the challenges of forecasting in the ever-changing landscape of search.

#85 Who cares about data literacy?

Join Dan, Dara and Bhav dive into the topic of data literacy. They share their personal definitions and perspectives on the subject, discussing the importance of data curiosity, data storytelling, and effective data communication. Bhav also explores the idea of data literacy as a dragon to be slayed, delving into the philosophical aspects of the topic. They all hope to reassure anyone listening that data literacy is something that can be developed and built upon, emphasising that everyone has some degree of data literacy, whether they know it or not!

#84 The future of product analytics tools

Join Dan, Dara and Bhav discuss the future of product analytics tools and the intersection between product analytics and marketing analytics. Gain insights into the changing landscape of analytics tools, the challenges and complexities of product analytics, and the potential impact of Google Analytics 4 (GA4) on the market. This episode they also discuss the importance of data collection, the benefits of using one platform for all needs, and the potential future of analytics tools with advancements in machine learning and cloud integrations.

#83 GA is dead, long live GA!

In this week's episode of The Measure Pod, Dan, Dara and Bhav delve deep into the transition from Universal Analytics (UA) to Google Analytics 4 (GA4). They reflect on their personal experiences with UA and express their mixed feelings about its departure. They also discuss how GA4 is perceived as an upgrade, but in reality, it's a completely different product! The conversation touches on the fear of change and the initial challenges associated with learning GA4. As the sun sets on UA, hear our hosts discuss the implications, opportunities, and challenges presented by GA4, and shed light on its nuances and what it means for the analytics industry.

#82 The person in personalisation (with David Mannheim @ Made With Intent)

Dan, Dara and Bhav are joined by David Mannheim (founder of Made With Intent and author of The Person In Personalisation) to talk about the world of personalisation and his new book 'The Person in Personalisation'. They talk about Disney's failed personalisation app and lack of personability, how personalisation is not CRO and the flaws in thinking as such. They also discuss if brands can truly form personal bonds in an era dominated by AI and automation.

#81 Marketing vs. product analytics

Dan and Dara kick off a new season of The Measure Pod by introducing Bhav Patel as a guest co-host and discussing all things marketing and product analytics. Dara tries to play Dan and Bhav off each other, Bhav promises to bring controversy, and Dan gains Bhav in team-User versus team-Session.

#80 A chat about $PodcastSubject with $GuestName (with Rasmus Houlind @ Agillic)

This week Dan and Dara are joined by Rasmus Houlind - author of the book Hello $FirstName and CXO at Agillic. In this discussion, they chat about what personalisation is, the differences between implicit and explicit personalisation, how the customer journey belongs to the customer, and how to adapt a CRO mindset for personalisation.

#79 Quant and qual data, different but complementary

This week Dan and Dara chat about quantitative and qualitative data, the merits of each type, and how they need to be used together and not siloed away in different teams to get the most valuable insights. This topic was suggested via our Feedback Form by Hugh - thanks Hugh!

#78 Sessionization is back baby!

This week Dan and Dara chat about the slow but steady move in Google Analytics 4 (GA4) towards reintroducing older session-based metrics that were in Universal Analytics (UA). Is this an admission that they were wrong to not have them in GA4 to begin with? Why would they introduce them now? They discuss all of this and more - like how it (of course) ties into Google Ads and GA360!